General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Negative Entropy on October 17, 2018, 08:15:19 AM

Title: Do pre-work actions count as work for work/life?
Post by: Negative Entropy on October 17, 2018, 08:15:19 AM
My takers have accumulated a bunch of stuff they want to sell.
Using work/life balance they trade a vignette or scam to sell stuff, do a milestone or run a business.
However they've got leads on jobs, a job line active and so they want to sell stuff instead of look for work, discover prices or learn about jobs.

It makes sense at this stage and I'm allowing it, but does the community see a pre work action as the same as work life.

Can the rules then be simplified as three worklife actions? Would this allow a taker to not look for work but scam twice?
Title: Re: Do pre-work actions count as work for work/life?
Post by: Laughing Penguin on October 18, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
A scam done during negotiation is not the same as the pre-work tasks you can do to get info on a job. A scam is part of the negotiation even if narratively it's done as a flashback that takes place before. Even playing with work/life balance shouldn't be able to get a Taker an extra scam somehow. Considering that a poor Leadership role means that some Takers might not be eligible to run a scam anyway, would this mean they'd potentially lose that action they gave up their vignette for? It just doesn't work within the rules.

When it comes to work/life, life = vignettes and work = look for a job/find price of a job/find competition for a job/details of a job. Takers give up one of those options to pursue some other venture.

That all said, if the group is just selling off haul they got from a single mission I generally just let them do it at the end of a contract. It's generally not worth the effort to micro manage emptying out the random bits of junk they scavenged, just pass the Networking roll and collect bounty. Unless they're setting up something bigger, like a full fledged estate sale with a few weeks' worth of scavenged goods - more of a flea market than a trip to the pawn shop - it's probably not important enough of an event to warrant taking away a work/life action.
Title: Re: Do pre-work actions count as work for work/life?
Post by: Doc Butcher on November 01, 2018, 01:50:52 PM

Prep work cannot be used for business opportunities or doubled up when skipping a vignette.

Page 324 upper right text box says
MBA and Prep
The advanced rules provide a wider variety of options for the economy of actions using the Work/Life principal (see p. 434). However, these rules do not affect prep work. Contracts have to be found, and even if the crew is doing Scores, the prep work is eaten up by the research that would be required of the characters to even learn the opportunity exists. One can’t forgo prep work to get extra scams or vignettes.