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Defiance film
« on: July 06, 2017, 10:45:35 PM »
Anyone catch a copy of that new load of crap film about the Crash called 'Defiance'?  We got a copy of it in Big Boy for the 4th, and what a load of garbage.  First off, Mark Wahlberg is far too old to play a single, young dad in his 20s.  I was really surprised by the whole CG Bill Pullman they used for the president.  It didn't look half bad, but I think that crosses some lines.

Casualties look like shit, and apparently latent is the new 'black best friend' trope.

Ugh.
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2017, 11:00:33 PM »
Anyone catch a copy of that new load of crap film about the Crash called 'Defiance'?  We got a copy of it in Big Boy for the 4th, and what a load of garbage.  First off, Mark Wahlberg is far too old to play a single, young dad in his 20s.  I was really surprised by the whole CG Bill Pullman they used for the president.  It didn't look half bad, but I think that crosses some lines.

Casualties look like shit, and apparently latent is the new 'black best friend' trope.

Ugh.

You got a copy?!

I will fucking pay you for that shit, I'm not kidding. I've been waiting to see this hot mess for over a year but I can't get a goddamn stream out here in Cali.
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 11:17:35 PM »
No shit?  I guess we're all starved for some stress relief, alright.  I'll PM you.
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 12:18:18 AM »
I am more concerned with the fact they're even bothering to try to make those production values high. Like seriously. It's technically competent, but it is so obvious someone in a censorship office took a hachet into it. It's like two or three different films in one.

Plus why bother vilifying Asia? Like...would think they'd take a harder push on the Moths
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 02:19:05 AM »
Plus why bother vilifying Asia? Like...would think they'd take a harder push on the Moths

View from the Recession (haven't seen the movie, can't stomach it, just talking about the reactions I'm seeing around me): They're already vilifying the Moths pretty constantly. They keep it up in a movie, they're not getting the stress relief they're hoping for from a movie. Plus, vilifying Asia allows them to tap into patriotism and 'rah, America!' without the possibility of people thinking about the rest of America that got abandoned...
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 02:31:50 AM »
oh my g o d

it's the extended release

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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 07:17:41 AM »
Pure garbage. Wahlberg phoned it in. Benedict Cumberbatch as a Chinese operative was just plain old-school offensive (surely at least one Asian-American actor made it to the recession?). And the whole third act was just a shit show. I did not however see the twist coming, you know with the kid being immune all along. Kind of creepy how they turned even that into propaganda though.
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 10:20:01 AM »
View from the Recession (haven't seen the movie, can't stomach it, just talking about the reactions I'm seeing around me): They're already vilifying the Moths pretty constantly. They keep it up in a movie, they're not getting the stress relief they're hoping for from a movie. Plus, vilifying Asia allows them to tap into patriotism and 'rah, America!' without the possibility of people thinking about the rest of America that got abandoned...

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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2017, 10:14:09 PM »
On the Asian thing...it could be we're gearing up for some kinda intervention in the Kumatatok (or however it's spelled). Gotta pregame that propaganda. Conscription is a tried and true way of using up "surplus population," i.e. the folks out in Free Parking. Damn, in a year I could be glad my son is missing his arm.
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 10:53:14 PM »
On the Asian thing...it could be we're gearing up for some kinda intervention in the Kumatatok (or however it's spelled). Gotta pregame that propaganda. Conscription is a tried and true way of using up "surplus population," i.e. the folks out in Free Parking. Damn, in a year I could be glad my son is missing his arm.

If the Recession is thinking about sticking their dicks into that clusterfuck, I'll eat my arm. They don't have the infrastructure or manpower out here to get into a shooting war halfway across the goddamn earth. The only major DHQS base I know of out here is an artificial island off the coast of LA; it's an enclave that got settled a year back. Gutshot's got family there.
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2017, 11:02:19 AM »
Anyone ranting about bad propaganda movies should check out underground producer Gillman's latest project: Before and After. To give you an indication of how serious an 'After' we're talking about here: there are Taker handles in the credits.

Bet your ass that Crash-related trigger warnings apply. Hell, even if you feel you've scabbed over since then, Gillman's brutal documentary is probably gonna peel that jade right off. But it's worth it for seeing the rare flower that is a honest take on examining a specific case of the Crash. Gillman reaches far beyond their limited production values and if you're not left feeling hollowed out in time for the end, then you've successfully gauged how much humanity you've got left - very little.

The end is amazing. I dearly want to talk about it, but spoiling it would be doing you all a disservice, so I'm zipping for now. :-X
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2017, 08:59:33 PM »
Bet your ass that Crash-related trigger warnings apply. Hell, even if you feel you've scabbed over since then, Gillman's brutal documentary is probably gonna peel that jade right off. But it's worth it for seeing the rare flower that is a honest take on examining a specific case of the Crash. Gillman reaches far beyond their limited production values and if you're not left feeling hollowed out in time for the end, then you've successfully gauged how much humanity you've got left - very little.

I think I heard about this one - it was all about what happened to an attempt to make an enclave out of a high school, right?
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2017, 07:50:18 PM »
Bet your ass that Crash-related trigger warnings apply. Hell, even if you feel you've scabbed over since then, Gillman's brutal documentary is probably gonna peel that jade right off. But it's worth it for seeing the rare flower that is a honest take on examining a specific case of the Crash. Gillman reaches far beyond their limited production values and if you're not left feeling hollowed out in time for the end, then you've successfully gauged how much humanity you've got left - very little.

I think I heard about this one - it was all about what happened to an attempt to make an enclave out of a high school, right?

The action does revolve around one of those school shooter proof schools that cropped up, reinforced doors, bulletproof glass, armed guards, etc. It would probably have been a good site for an Enclave, but... well. Just watch it, Flatcap.
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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2017, 09:39:00 PM »
oh my g o d

it's the extended release

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Re: Defiance film
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2017, 03:40:42 AM »
...are we hipsters now? Or whatever it is? Like, sure it is a propaganda piece and all, but I can't help but think like we're our dads complaining about those Transformers movies when we were kids and all that.
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